Margaret Thatcher and misapplied death etiquette

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Margaret Thatcher and misapplied death etiquette

Post by Bryant on Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:40 pm

Margaret Thatcher and misapplied death etiquette
By Glenn Greenwald
The Guardian




News of Margaret Thatcher's death this morning instantly and predictably gave rise to righteous sermons on the evils of speaking ill of her. British Labour MP Tom Watson decreed: "I hope that people on the left of politics respect a family in grief today." Following in the footsteps of Santa Claus, Steve Hynd quickly compiled a list of all the naughty boys and girls "on the left" who dared to express criticisms of the dearly departed Prime Minister, warning that he "will continue to add to this list throughout the day". Former Tory MP Louise Mensch, with no apparent sense of irony, invoked precepts of propriety to announce: "Pygmies of the left so predictably embarrassing yourselves, know this: not a one of your leaders will ever be globally mourned like her."

This demand for respectful silence in the wake of a public figure's death is not just misguided but dangerous. That one should not speak ill of the dead is arguably appropriate when a private person dies, but it is wildly inappropriate for the death of a controversial public figure, particularly one who wielded significant influence and political power. "Respecting the grief" of Thatcher's family members is appropriate if one is friends with them or attends a wake they organize, but the protocols are fundamentally different when it comes to public discourse about the person's life and political acts. I made this argument at length last year when Christopher Hitchens died and a speak-no-ill rule about him was instantly imposed (a rule he, more than anyone, viciously violated), and I won't repeat that argument today; those interested can read my reasoning here.

But the key point is this: those who admire the deceased public figure (and their politics) aren't silent at all. They are aggressively exploiting the emotions generated by the person's death to create hagiography. Typifying these highly dubious claims about Thatcher was this (appropriately diplomatic) statement from President Obama: "The world has lost one of the great champions of freedom and liberty, and America has lost a true friend." Those gushing depictions can be quite consequential, as it was for the week-long tidal wave of unbroken reverence that was heaped on Ronald Reagan upon his death, an episode that to this day shapes how Americans view him and the political ideas he symbolized. Demanding that no criticisms be voiced to counter that hagiography is to enable false history and a propagandistic whitewashing of bad acts, distortions that become quickly ossified and then endure by virtue of no opposition and the powerful emotions created by death. When a political leader dies, it is irresponsible in the extreme to demand that only praise be permitted but not criticisms.

Whatever else may be true of her, Thatcher engaged in incredibly consequential acts that affected millions of people around the world. She played a key role not only in bringing about the first Gulf War but also using her influence to publicly advocate for the 2003 attack on Iraq. She denounced Nelson Mandela and his ANC as "terrorists", something even David Cameron ultimately admitted was wrong. She was a steadfast friend to brutal tyrants such as Augusto Pinochet, Saddam Hussein and Indonesian dictator General Suharto ("One of our very best and most valuable friends"). And as my Guardian colleague Seumas Milne detailed last year, "across Britain Thatcher is still hated for the damage she inflicted – and for her political legacy of rampant inequality and greed, privatisation and social breakdown."

To demand that all of that be ignored in the face of one-sided requiems to her nobility and greatness is a bit bullying and tyrannical, not to mention warped. As David Wearing put it this morning in satirizing these speak-no-ill-of-the-deceased moralists: "People praising Thatcher's legacy should show some respect for her victims. Tasteless." Tellingly, few people have trouble understanding the need for balanced commentary when the political leaders disliked by the west pass away. Here, for instance, was what the Guardian reported upon the death last month of Hugo Chavez:

"To the millions who detested him as a thug and charlatan, it will be occasion to bid, vocally or discreetly, good riddance."

Nobody, at least that I know of, objected to that observation on the ground that it was disrespectful to the ability of the Chavez family to mourn in peace. Any such objections would have been invalid. It was perfectly justified to note that, particularly as the Guardian also explained that "to the millions who revered him – a third of the country, according to some polls – a messiah has fallen, and their grief will be visceral." Chavez was indeed a divisive and controversial figure, and it would have been reckless to conceal that fact out of some misplaced deference to the grief of his family and supporters. He was a political and historical figure and the need to accurately portray his legacy and prevent misleading hagiography easily outweighed precepts of death etiquette that prevail when a private person dies.

Exactly the same is true of Thatcher. There's something distinctively creepy - in a Roman sort of way - about this mandated ritual that our political leaders must be heralded and consecrated as saints upon death. This is accomplished by this baseless moral precept that it is gauche or worse to balance the gushing praise for them upon death with valid criticisms. There is absolutely nothing wrong with loathing Margaret Thatcher or any other person with political influence and power based upon perceived bad acts, and that doesn't change simply because they die. If anything, it becomes more compelling to commemorate those bad acts upon death as the only antidote against a society erecting a false and jingoistically self-serving history.
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Re: Margaret Thatcher and misapplied death etiquette

Post by Sir Pun on Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:17 pm

Nah, i say hell if they talked shit about her while she was alive, they shouldnt put out bs statements all kiss ass like but at the same time, i think there is an appropriate way to critique her political views, philosophies, as well as those of her party (as the liberal media over there [not saying the entire media over there] is bound to do), while also laying off the personal bs, and allowing her at least human dignity and courtesy of anyone who's passed on. At least for a period anyway.

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Post by Miles1 on Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:29 am

Maggie was probably one of the most divisive leaders Britain has had in a long time. On one side, she did a lot for the country by dragging it out of the recession in the late 70s, but in doing so she broke the back of the trade union movement (which admittedly needed to be done, they were way too powerful) and destroyed the economies of lots of small (mostly coal-dependent) towns in the north of england in the miners strikes of 1984-85, destroyed local government all over the UK in favour of massive centralization, and caused a lot of pain to a lot of people. She wasn't exactly a friend to Ireland either. Looking at the news the last 2 nights over here, there are a lot of people who unapologetically said that they'd be celebrating today when she was buried, over 20 years since she left power.

The way I see it, the whole "don't speak ill of the dead" thing is a load of crap. If I didn't like someone when they were alive I'm not going to pretend to like them just because they're dead. I'm not going to go out of my way to bad-mouth them, but I'm not going to go out of my way to praise them either, if someone asks my opinion I'll give it and if they don't like the answer, they shouldn't have asked the question. .

On another note, a lot of twitter users have been really confused as to who actually died.... :-P

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Re: Margaret Thatcher and misapplied death etiquette

Post by Sir Pun on Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:28 am

Ugh!

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Post by Marconius on Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:48 pm

Yeah I agree with the jist of the post. Tell the truth about them even if they did just pass. I would not however throw a celebratory parade or have a day of celebration unless they were dictatorial. I do not like much of what she did, much like the massive federal power grab over here in the 1980's, but find myself flabbergasted by the dummies on the left who are celebrating her death. Do those idiots not realize that they are fighting for many of the things she actually did??? Do they not realize they both want and love a strong, centralized government??? They need one to dole out the dole they want.....dumbasses.

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