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Post by Dennis324 on Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:20 am


NEW YORK – The son of a jailed Muslim Brotherhood leader in Egypt is claiming his father has evidence that will land President Obama in prison.  The claim came as the Obama administration, with the assistance of Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and the open involvement of the No. 2 man at the U.S. State Department, made a concerted effort to see Muslim Brotherhood leaders in Egypt released.
 
In an interview with the News Agency Anatolia in Turkey, Saad Al-Shater, the son of imprisoned Muslim Brotherhood leader Khairat Al-Shater, said his father “had in his hand” evidence that will put Obama in prison.
 
In a thinly veiled threat, Saad Al-Shater said a U.S. delegation was sent to Cairo by Obama to press for the release of the imprisoned Muslim Brotherhood leaders, including his father to prevent the release of explosive information.
Arabic-speaking former PLO member Walid Shoebat has translated the report by the Turkish News Agency Anatolia as follows:
 
In an interview with the Anatolia News Agency, Saad Al-Shater, the son of a Muslim Brotherhood leader, the detained Khairat Al-Shater, said that his father had in his hand evidence that will land the head of United States of America, President Obama, in prison. He stressed that the senior U.S. delegation currently visiting Egypt, knows full well that the fate, future, interests and reputation of their country is in the hands of his father, and they know that he owns the information, documents and recordings that incriminate and would condemn their country. Such documents, he says, were placed in the hands of people who were entrusted inside and outside Egypt, and that the release of his father is the only way for them to prevent a great catastrophe. He stated that a warning was sent threatening to show how the U.S. administration was directly connected. The evidence was sent through intermediaries which caused them to change their attitude and corrected their position, and that they have taken serious steps to prove good faith. Saad also said that his father’s safety is more important to the Americans than is the safety of Mohamed Morsi.


On Aug. 6, with interim Egyptian Vice President Mohamed ElBaradei, the former general director of the U.N. International Atomic Energy Agency, McCain and Graham called Khairat Al-Shater and other jailed Muslim Brotherhood leaders “political prisoners.” They told reporters in Cairo that failing to release Muslim Brotherhood prisoners would be “a huge mistake.”
Egypt’s interim president, Adly Mansour, rebuffed the U.S. delegation’s request, telling reporters in Cairo that it constituted an “unacceptable interference in internal politics.”

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/muslim-brotherhood-claim-weve-got-goods-on-obama/#GcTSRFulScEPwZDR.99
In most cases I would say this was just some loudmouth trying to cut a deal for his father's release.  But it will be interesting to see if the father is released and if anything else comes of this.  Sounds fishy, but given that Obama has ties to and has clearly supported the Muslim Brotherhood, and has had meeting in the Whitehouse that we still don't know what the topics discussed were...I just wonder.  I would like to know, however, why Lindsey Graham and John McCain thinks that Egyptian authorities ought to release the Muslim Brotherhood prisoners.  Especially since the article mentions that some were responsible for weapons trafficking into Syria.

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Post by Bryant on Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:32 am

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NEW YORK – The son of a jailed Muslim Brotherhood leader in Egypt is claiming his father has evidence that will land President Obama in prison.  The claim came as the Obama administration, with the assistance of Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and the open involvement of the No. 2 man at the U.S. State Department, made a concerted effort to see Muslim Brotherhood leaders in Egypt released.
 
In an interview with the News Agency Anatolia in Turkey, Saad Al-Shater, the son of imprisoned Muslim Brotherhood leader Khairat Al-Shater, said his father “had in his hand” evidence that will put Obama in prison.
 
In a thinly veiled threat, Saad Al-Shater said a U.S. delegation was sent to Cairo by Obama to press for the release of the imprisoned Muslim Brotherhood leaders, including his father to prevent the release of explosive information.
Arabic-speaking former PLO member Walid Shoebat has translated the report by the Turkish News Agency Anatolia as follows:
 
In an interview with the Anatolia News Agency, Saad Al-Shater, the son of a Muslim Brotherhood leader, the detained Khairat Al-Shater, said that his father had in his hand evidence that will land the head of United States of America, President Obama, in prison. He stressed that the senior U.S. delegation currently visiting Egypt, knows full well that the fate, future, interests and reputation of their country is in the hands of his father, and they know that he owns the information, documents and recordings that incriminate and would condemn their country. Such documents, he says, were placed in the hands of people who were entrusted inside and outside Egypt, and that the release of his father is the only way for them to prevent a great catastrophe. He stated that a warning was sent threatening to show how the U.S. administration was directly connected. The evidence was sent through intermediaries which caused them to change their attitude and corrected their position, and that they have taken serious steps to prove good faith. Saad also said that his father’s safety is more important to the Americans than is the safety of Mohamed Morsi.


On Aug. 6, with interim Egyptian Vice President Mohamed ElBaradei, the former general director of the U.N. International Atomic Energy Agency, McCain and Graham called Khairat Al-Shater and other jailed Muslim Brotherhood leaders “political prisoners.” They told reporters in Cairo that failing to release Muslim Brotherhood prisoners would be “a huge mistake.”
Egypt’s interim president, Adly Mansour, rebuffed the U.S. delegation’s request, telling reporters in Cairo that it constituted an “unacceptable interference in internal politics.”

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/muslim-brotherhood-claim-weve-got-goods-on-obama/#GcTSRFulScEPwZDR.99
In most cases I would say this was just some loudmouth trying to cut a deal for his father's release.  But it will be interesting to see if the father is released and if anything else comes of this.  Sounds fishy, but given that Obama has ties to and has clearly supported the Muslim Brotherhood, and has had meeting in the Whitehouse that we still don't know what the topics discussed were...I just wonder.  I would like to know, however, why Lindsey Graham and John McCain thinks that Egyptian authorities ought to release the Muslim Brotherhood prisoners.  Especially since the article mentions that some were responsible for weapons trafficking into Syria.
The US will advocate for the dad's release because he is a political prisoner, arrested because he is a political threat to the military backed government.

If I had my way I'd do nothing to get that jackass out of prison.  If he want's to try to blackmail the US government he can go **** himself.

Besides, if McCain and Graham had the dirt on Obama I don't see why they would hesitate to use it against him. McCain is petty enough and Graham has ambitions.
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Re: Muslim Brotherhood claim: We've got 'goods on Obama'

Post by Dennis324 on Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:37 am

Ok, it seems that Khairat Al-Shater (the father) of Saad, participated in the February 1968 student protests against the Egyptian government.  After the then president Anwar Sadat's assassination in 1981, el-Shater was exiled as an Islamist dissident, and left for England. After returning in the mid-1980s, he became an active member of the Muslim Brotherhood. In 1995, he became head of the Brotherhood's Greater Cairo branch.
 
While in England was considered a main financier and chief strategist of the Brotherhood.  Under the Mubarak regime, he was imprisoned from 2007 until his release by the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces in March 2011.   It is also likely, though not certain, that El-Shater is behind the Islamist monopoly of the 100-member assembly elected by parliament to draft a new constitution. Source
 
FBI director Robert Muller has said that the Muslim Brotherhood has inspired terrorists such as Osama bin Laden, and have supported terrorism here (in the US )and overseas.


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Post by Dennis324 on Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:38 am

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Besides, if McCain and Graham had the dirt on Obama I don't see why they would hesitate to use it against him.  McCain is petty enough and Graham has ambitions.
Maybe they don't know what that dirt is?
 
The scope of the Brotherhood's vision for the United States was spelled out in a 1991 document called the "Explanatory Memorandum." In that memo, which federal prosecutors introduced as evidence in two trials of the now-defunct Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, Brotherhood leaders said they planned to create an Islamic state in the United States.  Link
An Islamic state in the US.
 
And representatives of the Muslim Brotherhood are visiting the Whitehouse and Obama is supporting Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and the middle east...  No

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Post by Sir Pun on Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:06 am

I dont get whats with graham and mccain. They seem just eager to make the MB out to be choir boys as the administration. In fact, why dont they just change parties?

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Post by Bryant on Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:53 pm

Its an attempt to engage stakeholders in the region. If we alienate the brotherhood and they come to power (as they did in Egypt) we'll have absolutely no influence. Engagement doesn't necessarily mean we support the group or agree with their ideals, but rather that we recognize them as an important group in the region. Even if we don't like the Brotherhood, a working relationship could be very useful.
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Post by Sir Pun on Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:59 pm

Oy! Ill let somebody rlse take it from here

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Post by Marconius on Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:55 pm

Nah, I ain't takin it.

Our government never supported/liked/turned a blind eye to the Brotherhood to begin with(that was sarcasm).

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